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sell bhel....
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SONOM_2005Price when posted : BSE: Rs 1731.75 ( -1.90 % ), NSE: Rs. 1732.25 ( -1.92 % )
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Yes BHEL will shoot up on Monday as well as Tuesday.Now it's a rerated stock after nuclear deal....
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sell bhel....
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vtycoon
arre bhai shantikar....
BHEL ko short karkee marna hai kya ???
it will race on monday n tuesday ! uske baad araam se shirt kareoo 
Good and high returning share
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miska4uPrice when posted : BSE: Rs 92.95 ( -2.26 % ), NSE: Rs. 93.05 ( -2.21 % )
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Dear Investor,
I am a retired person, a novice and want to be a full time trader like u. Please guide me how to be a successful day trader and which books i have to study for the purpose. I follow up your messages quite some time. My Name is : David Roy, email id: miska4u@yahoo(dot)co(dot)in...
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Good and high returning share
Posted by :
radhika_nandlal
investor,
TRIN also known as arms index was first used by the US ARMY during wars to guess the number of enemy planes that could strike a region...the same indication works like magic in stockmarkets too.
Remember TRIN is not for individual stocks, its for an index... take NIFTY as an index...there are 50 stocks so TRIN on any given day is
Advancing stocks divided by declining stocks DIVIDED BY Advancing Volumes divided by declining volumes...
TRIN mostly ranges between 0.1 to 1.9 max.. but i have seen DAILY TRINS of 25 also lol lol
When its 0.1 its overbought and is overbought until 0.7
At 0.7 its considered neutral
At greater than 0.7 its oversold with 1 being terribly oversold.
If we rallied and TRIN is at 1, it means the rally was used for selling and its a bearish divergence.... but it also could mean a lot of shorts so next day if for any reason we rally then shorters would cover immediately.. but mostly when the TRIN is oversold during a rally it means the sentiment is bearish and markets more likely to fall next day..... so its a double edged sword but a great indicator...
Will MUkesh Ambani sell RPL to Cheverlon ?
Posted by : investor11Price when posted : BSE: Rs 158.80 ( -0.09 % ), NSE: Rs. 158.80 ( -0.06 % )
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I hope that both thaese twin will fly tomorrow thanks....
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Will MUkesh Ambani sell RPL to Cheverlon ?
Posted by : EG
I fully endorse the views of some respectable boarders that RIL & RPL will "OUTPERFORM" in near future when compared to other Reliance shares. The main reason is the acumen & sharpness of Mukesh Ambani who knows how to run a business effectively. RIL shares are under priced & similar case is with RPL. On the other hand RNRL & RELPOW are over priced, due to certain reasons which one can guess. INVESTORS should keep their COOL & wait & watch, MAMBANI will not disappoint his loyal shareholders at any cost. Regards!
Good buying
Posted by : investor11Price when posted : BSE: Rs 167.50 ( -5.23 % ), NSE: Rs. 167.65 ( -5.23 % )
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What target you expect for JPASS whether nuclear deal would have any direct impact on its buissness?...
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Good buying
Posted by : vkk43
Jai Prakash should do well next week.
Gap up or gap down opening........
Posted by : newbie9Price when posted : BSE: Rs 244.15 ( -2.98 % ), NSE: Rs. 244.40 ( -2.88 % )
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Thanks a lot DUstocks for prompt reply and suggetion for partly covering the positions.
This brings me to the next thought. What is the mechanism by which we get gap up or gap down opening. I mean what exactly happens the previous day or in the morning of the day when we have say gap up opening? Like do people put advanced bids? In that connection I was wondering if we can also take the maximum advantage.
Thanks
Regards
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Gap up or gap down opening........
Posted by : DUstocks
Gap up (GUs) or gap down (GDs) OPENINGS are of course to be exploited only by day-traders or swing-traders newbie9, and NOT by term investors.
We can (or may) gain just by holding on to a purely speculative position taken the previous session ... with some common sense and conviction of course.
Good examples are : the evening before the vote of confidence for the Govt. recently, and just last Friday evening (NSG) - the latest.
Such positions are usually nothing more than well-calculated risks that are SUPPOSED to work in your favour. You may partly COVER your positions, so that you aren't totally wiped off if the opening does CONTRADICT your anticipation.
Of course once a GU or GD opening has been initiated, it may not be possible to exploit it much, as you won't know which way the market will go subsequently. Regards, DU.
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Thanks for detailes reply. Will you please share your views on Silverline Tech and Silverline Animation. Are these shares worth holding (If already invested )and whether fresh buying can be made at current level....
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Gremach has started upward move
Posted by : gajabhau
u shud see shareholding pattern jun08,mar08 etc for any stock in this case 2 franklin templeton schemes n one fii lehman exited completely(ttl % holding abt 10).thats a lot for a scrip wh is a mid cap --hence the might fall
consolation is merryl lynch,mavi invest,pnb,sofia etc still hold a chunk(who are still bullish or they were caught unaware like us)
promoters or their competitors have habit in the mkt to show that theirs is weak scrip but actually they are mopping shares(nre circles cud be doing that now knowing fully well the potential of the stock)
the real story we will know only in say sep 10 when price is either 110 or 810
I HOPE THE LATTER IS TRUE.WE ALL LIVE ON HOPES
Should i buy Rpowe stock?
Posted by : investor11Price when posted : BSE: Rs 162.90 ( 2.26 % ), NSE: Rs. 163.00 ( 2.23 % )
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We should have positive sentiments probably whole week and may see a rally of around 300 points on NIFTY,reasonas are
Positive sentiments due to NSG and Singur
Crude may continue to fall
Should see further improved data on inflation
I do agree that this would not lost very long best we may see 5000 breaking before we begins to fall....
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Should i buy Rpowe stock?
Posted by : vkk43
But its positive sentimental impact may not last long, if market continues to show weakness and volatile
Gap up or gap down opening........
Posted by : DUstocksPrice when posted : BSE: Rs 244.15 ( -2.98 % ), NSE: Rs. 244.40 ( -2.88 % )
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Gap up (GUs) or gap down (GDs) OPENINGS are of course to be exploited only by day-traders or swing-traders newbie9, and NOT by term investors.
We can (or may) gain just by holding on to a purely speculative position taken the previous session ... with some common sense and conviction of course.
Good examples are : the evening before the vote of confidence for the Govt. recently, and just last Friday evening (NSG) - the latest.
Such positions are usually nothing more than well-calculated risks that are SUPPOSED to work in your favour. You may partly COVER your positions, so that you aren't totally wiped off if the opening does CONTRADICT your anticipation.
Of course once a GU or GD opening has been initiated, it may not be possible to exploit it much, as you won't know which way the market will go subsequently. Regards, DU.
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Gap up or gap down opening........
Posted by : newbie9
Hi everybody
I have a very general question. How can we take the maximum advantage of the knowledge that we would have a gap up or gap down opening the next day?
Thanks
Regards
Good and high returning share
Posted by : investor11Price when posted : BSE: Rs 92.95 ( -2.26 % ), NSE: Rs. 93.05 ( -2.21 % )
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Thanks for very elobarative and lucid answer,from where we can get TRIN value on any given day?...
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Good and high returning share
Posted by : radhika_nandlal
investor,
TRIN also known as arms index was first used by the US ARMY during wars to guess the number of enemy planes that could strike a region...the same indication works like magic in stockmarkets too.
Remember TRIN is not for individual stocks, its for an index... take NIFTY as an index...there are 50 stocks so TRIN on any given day is
Advancing stocks divided by declining stocks DIVIDED BY Advancing Volumes divided by declining volumes...
TRIN mostly ranges between 0.1 to 1.9 max.. but i have seen DAILY TRINS of 25 also lol lol
When its 0.1 its overbought and is overbought until 0.7
At 0.7 its considered neutral
At greater than 0.7 its oversold with 1 being terribly oversold.
If we rallied and TRIN is at 1, it means the rally was used for selling and its a bearish divergence.... but it also could mean a lot of shorts so next day if for any reason we rally then shorters would cover immediately.. but mostly when the TRIN is oversold during a rally it means the sentiment is bearish and markets more likely to fall next day..... so its a double edged sword but a great indicator...
jai gets drawn into non-compete agreement
Posted by : jasaviPrice when posted : BSE: Rs 327.20 ( -1.01 % ), NSE: Rs. 327.55 ( -1.13 % )
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Mukesh buddy breaks into Anil turf
SAUMITRA DASGUPTA
Mumbai, Sept. 3: The title fight used to read: Ambani vs Ambani.
That script may soon change. Get ready for a gripping proxy battle where the card reads: Anand Jain versus Anil Ambani.
Jain (51), Mukesh Ambani’s closest buddy, has started to muscle into areas such as power generation, telecom and city gas distribution — areas that were supposed to be Anil’s exclusive preserve for at least 10 years under the terms of a non-compete agreement between the two Ambani camps before the carve-up of Dhirubhai’s empire in early 2006.
Jain’s biggest foray is in the area of special economic zones: his company, Jai Corp Ltd, is a stakeholder in the entities that will be developing the 5,000-hectare Mumbai SEZ and the 5,289-acre Navi Mumbai SEZ — the two large projects conceived by the Mukesh Ambani group. He is the chairman of the boards of both SEZs.
He is also developing a mega port-based SEZ at Rewas with 70 deep draught berths on the west coast of Maharashtra, about 10km away from Jawaharlal Nehru Port Trust. Jai Corp’s annual report for 2007-08 says, “Rewas port will emerge as the Rotterdam of Asia.”
It plans to establish nine berths in the initial phase with a draught of 20 metres against an average 12.5 metres in other Indian ports.
However, the foray into SEZs has also been a nice little ruse to push into areas that Mukesh Ambani cannot enter till at least late 2015 without running foul of the non-compete pact.
So, Jai Corp has set up three associate companies — Urban Energy Generation Pvt Ltd, Urban Energy Distribution Pvt Ltd and Urban Energy Transmission Pvt Ltd. Jai Corp holds a 26 per cent stake in each of the three entities.
What’s wrong with that? A great deal.
The non-compete agreement also bars the Mukesh Ambani group from helping anyone else set up business in these prohibited areas till such time as it is in force. This could spark another legal quibble over whether Mukesh and Anand are colluding to circumvent the restrictions spelt out in the pact.
Expansion plans
Jain’s Urban Energy Generation has already received approvals and environmental clearance for a 2,000MW gas-based power plant at Dronagiri in Navi Mumbai. In the first phase, it will set up a 700MW plant for captive use by the SEZs.
The company has also received two support letters from the Maharashtra government to set up two other gas-based power plants each with a capacity of 2,100MW — one to be located at Kondgaon near Nagothane in Raigad district (which also houses the bedevilled Enron project) and the other at Kalamboli in Thane district.
“The company proposes to make power available to the other consumers after meeting the needs of the SEZs,” says the annual report.
There is no word about where it plans to source the gas from. With Reliance Industries planning to start commercial production from the D-6 gas field in the Krishna-Godavari basin sometime in October, it might want to tap that source. That will depend on how the court battle between the Ambani brothers over gas supply and pricing pans out.
The other big area of promise is city gas distribution — an area where several companies, including GAIL (India) Ltd and the Anil Ambani group, plan to enter in a big way.
The newly formed downstream regulator — Petroleum and Natural Gas Regulatory Board — is currently vetting a sheaf of proposals relating to city gas distribution projects. It isn’t clear whether Jain has submitted his application.
Mukesh Ambani’s Reliance Gas recently submitted expressions of interest to the gas regulator for 54 cities, including Calcutta, Bangalore, Chennai and Hyderabad. But he is barred from distributing gas in Mumbai under the pact.
Jai Corp has formed three wholly owned subsidiaries — Urban Gas Ltd, Urban Gas Distribution Ltd and Urban Gas Suppliers Ltd — to anchor its ambitions in this arena. All three became subsidiaries of Jai Corp on February 27, indicating that this plan might have been conceived fairly recently.
Initially, piped gas will be delivered to large residential townships within the SEZs and later extended to other townships that the company plans to build in other areas.
“Going forward, the company will also cater to the LPG requirements of other small cities,” the report added.
There is less information available on the telecom business even though this is also a stated objective. Urban Telecom Pvt Ltd was an associate of Jai Corp until last December and was then presumably spun off to some group entity.
There are two other associates — Urban Communication Infrastructure Ltd and Urban Infotech Solutions — which might provide services within the SEZs.
Pact problems
The non-compete pact is pretty unequivocal: telecom, power generation and distribution, financial services and city gas distribution in Delhi and Mumbai are reserved for the Anil camp.
The agreement sets December 21, 2005, as the effective date from which it commences but there are sliding dates for protection of Anil’s exclusive turf: 10 years from the date the ADAG group took control of the telecom entities (February 7, 2006); and 10 years from April 1, 2009 in the case of power generation and distribution.
The agreement defines the two camps as the demerged group (i.e. Mukesh Ambani entities) and the resulting group (Anil Ambani outfits).
In power, the agreement is very explicit; it even carries an illustration. It says, “…if the demerged group commences the business of power generation internationally and sells electricity in India, the same would constitute a subject of the non-compete obligation of the demerged group in favour of the resulting group, and would be a prohibited activity for the demerged group to the extent of the sale of electricity in the territory of India.”
The agreement specifically bars the Mukesh Ambani group from helping anyone else set up business in these prohibited areas till such time as it is in force.
It says, “RIL agrees to ensure that … for so long as resulting group companies are in compliance with their obligations…neither it nor any of its affiliates or any company or entity promoted by RIL shall…engage or attempt to or assist any other person to engage in, participate in or carry on any of the resulting group businesses, directly or indirectly, either on its own account or as a partner, agent, consultant, manager, associate or shareholder.”
Money muscle
Jai Corp is a fairly small entity in comparison to the Ambani behemoths: it had a turnover of Rs 327.9 crore in the year ended March 31 and a net profit of Rs 128.2 crore. But it carried forward a surplus of Rs 238 crore.
However, it is preparing for a major financing programme. Last week, its shareholders approved a resolution to raise money through a qualified institutional placement (QIP) issue.
The question that all this raises is this: can Anil Ambani do anything to block the strategy?
Back in July, the Mukesh Ambani camp used the non-compete pact to scuttle a deal between Reliance Communications and South Africa-based MTN that involved that involved the sale of a part of the promoter's stake in R-Com.
Anil could use it as well to stymie Jain.
news in telegraphindia paper on 04-09-08
srinivas said...
Raju's:
Posting is interesting. Is it possible that Jai Corp could be drawn into the non-compete agreement.
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Ready for acquisiton worth 3-4 bln rs
Posted by : supergeekPrice when posted : BSE: Rs 49.25 ( 0.51 % ), NSE: Rs. 49.30 ( 0.51 % )
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i think u r right buddy. i hate those companies who sit on cashpiles and become eternally conservative. it is a common knowledge market does not give any value to cash on the balance sheet. markets reward those companies who move up the value chain. moreover, in jewellery market companies have exotic brandname. shubh and labh is poor branding. it is also surprising that companies which supplies lot of jewellery as bulk in gulf countries has not thought of setting up its own branded outlet? in my belief, companies still suffer from vendor mindset. cash is poorly respected. i think companies should learn from indiabulls, anil ambani......
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Ready for acquisiton worth 3-4 bln rs
Posted by : aak20
There are lot of news items but less actions. Last year company collected ~1000 crorer for international acquition, however afterwards there is no news about the same. Company acquired Oyzterbay 2 years back. There was news that the company will be modified as upmarket chain and will be present in malls. So far no news on the same. Company talked about real estate development in a big way but no development. Company said that it will have pan India presence in retail segment. But Laabh Jewellers shops are smaller than local jeweller shops even in city like Pune. One really does not know what sort of revenus is generated from this. Company had planned commercial ads for retail foray but no advertisement so far.
In contrast Gitanjali Gems look to be moving fast forward with international collaborations, take overs and retail jewellary initiative. Company is developing several SEZs and looks better mover than Rajesh Exports.
May be I am sounding a bit negative, but the developments show the same. I hope Rajsh Exports delivers the promises. Any views?
Gap up or gap down opening........
Posted by : newbie9Price when posted : BSE: Rs 244.15 ( -2.98 % ), NSE: Rs. 244.40 ( -2.88 % )
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Hi everybody
I have a very general question. How can we take the maximum advantage of the knowledge that we would have a gap up or gap down opening the next day?
Thanks
Regards...
Rain Commodities to buy back share at 307 rupees/shr
Posted by : gajabhauPrice when posted : BSE: Rs 213.40 ( -1.25 % ), NSE: Rs. 213.60 ( -1.27 % )
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understand debt to eq ratio is steep 9 to 1 rpt 9 to 1 due to to acuisition. hence AVOID....
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Rain Commodities to buy back share at 307 rupees/shr
Posted by : Akh28
I would like to clarify on buy back offer. It is not a open offer to shareholders to buy shares from shareholders directly. It is buy back offer where company will be buying shares from stock markets at prevailing market prices up to a maximum price of 307 rs.
So we can\\`t tender shares to company.
This buy back will take time to start, may be 6-10 weeks. They will have to take approval from exchanges, appoint the broker to buy etc.
The buy back price announced is very less and on top of that amount allocated for the purpose is tiny 26 cr. That is why the price is not moving up. In my opinion it will now find difficult to go past 225 and may go back to 200 level. Any upside can only be expected before the Sept results, that is couple of months away. So better sell at these levels and buy later at 200.
Or sell it at 220-225 and buy goa carbons at 125 if it comes back to that price. It will surely reach to new highs.
They are selling CPC in spot market and hence have got full benefit of booming CPC prices. Whereas Rain has huge capacity of CPC and can\\`t afford to brake the existing contracts. They are selling CPC at huge discount to spot prices.
Company has disappointed again with their attitude by announcing buy back with only 26 crs. Will that be able to support the share price?
Others opinion welcome on the matter.
Should Tatas pull out from West Bengal?
Posted by : NODIKPrice when posted : BSE: Rs 419.95 ( -2.06 % ), NSE: Rs. 420.05 ( -1.70 % )
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WhAT are Tata's waiting for. WB was there before tatas & will be there TATAS OR NO TATAS. You mean to say there's no life without NANO or tatas. PLEASE DONT BE THAT short sighted, tatas is not the end of the world. Just remember every cloud has a silver lining....
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Should Tatas pull out from West Bengal?
Posted by : vkk43
I do agree with you. Tata should have taken their decision much earlier.
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Hi Guna, reasons for giving high target?...
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Bonus Shares from HUL....
Posted by : Guna
Bonus or no bonus HUL will hit year high soon.
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