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Traders speculated that the measures announced till now are too small to prevent the global economy from sliding into a recession......
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After the market hours Our H\`nble F.M came in front of media, & have taken a big step from liquidity side, He announced that RBI will relase 25K cr rupees to lending institutuions, where the 17500 NABARD & 7500 for commercial banks, nabard is long term investment bond which has taken a imp..role for bond market that news will positive in liquidity side for bond market, only,, but the commercial banks will get 7500 that amount we can expect may come in equity market, but i dnt think , that will give any major support to equity market, he has also increase FIIS limit in bond market to $3bn ,, now FIIS can invest up to $6bn where earlier was $3bn. so this is really very positive news from liquidiy side,, so i think that we may have to wait N watch to understand market movement . now i will advice to wait N watch, but 1 can start invest in JP ASSOCIATE, in SIP basis,let see how market will react in coming couple of days, that will take a very imp role for market in coming days,....
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Dear vam,
Thank you friend.The entire credit goes to DUstocks ji who is the author of this strategy.
BTW,one could not have bought 123 lots in 3800 PE as the lowest price reached so far is only 60 and so max only 6 lots could have been bought and of these three would have been sold to make the balance free.I did the same but made one error yesterday.I swapped these for 3100 and 3300 PEs and 3800CE thinking that mkt would hold for a few days around 3600,which was not to be.Now I am left with 4 lots of 3100PE,1 lot of 3300PE and two lots of 3800 PE.Ofcourse all are free.But this won`t serve the purpose.I may add some more 3100 PE at less than 40 in the next few days.
I would share my views on this in detail later
Regards,
...
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Nifty 3600 ...an option route
Posted by :
vam_aru
Dear Googool,
If some one taken your advice and invested 1.09 Lakhs, ( because the NIFTY reached around 4250 after you have written ), and would have had 123 lots at 17.8 rs ( 6150 Number of NIFTY ),
So when the markets Touched 3200, assuming that the person squared off all the Lots at 3300, he would have made 30 Lakhs. ( 28 Times on his investment )... superb
WOW you did had a great insight, How much 3800 PE did you bought ?
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I haven`t read all the conversations. But in this market crash, following are the greatest stocks for our life time:
Reliance Industries,
L & T,
ITC,
Mercator Lines.
Put 10000 rupees each these stocks & get back more than your life time savings in next 25 years.
Just put 10000 each and get back to me after 10 years.
I would still be here at MMB.
Thanks,
SandPM...
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by : lovemeall26
Hello lalitdeshpandey,
The above message is for you and I have wrongly addressed it to pradesh.
take note,
lovemeall26
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hello dear
ur concern is definately serious but there is one unique thing for the market which is always applicable to mkt and that is the return to ur investment in market depends only on the time period for which ur money is invested in the market
there is definate debacle in the markets but u need to worry only if ur money is there for short term becoz only two types of person can stay happy in the market one those who square off positions on 3.30pm and others one who remain invested for min 3-4 years expect these all person will loose money in the mkt
so choose ur way and stay happy
regds
mohit lakhotia ...
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What to do when markets fall and can fall further?
Posted by : latikav
Stock market crashes are not different from personal crises, first comes denial, then disbelief and depression.
Coming out of it is difficult but not impossible. That`s what investors need to do, even if emotions have no place where money is involved.
Financial advice remains the same: buy things at the right price and don`t get greedy.
And the experience in India, going back to the Harshad Mehta scam (1992-93), the economic slowdown (1995-96) and the burst internet bubble (2000), all saw massive market crashes, which, in hindsight, were all opportunities.
Kinds of Investors----------So does that mean you should start investing now? There are two kinds of investors today.
One is beyond his mid-thirties and has hence bled in the earlier crises too. If he lost everything this time too, he should give up on equities. Debt, the safe variety like fixed deposits, is his best hope. But those who have some cash left, by lowering exposure to equities starting, say, two years ago, have some hope. They can now begin scouting for stocks.
Then, there are people who have been investors since 2003; they have been hit by a long epidemic of the winner`s curse. Those who shifted into cash are the wise ones; they just have to wait for good picks. The others who are sitting on huge losses, this is the best time to start applying the basics of investing.
When to invest?---------------------------First, reassess your personal financial health. If liabilities are higher than assets or the gap is narrow, and similarly with expenditure and income, set it right. This has nothing to do with investing, but first your house should be in order. It may mean selling off loss-making shares, a holiday home or any non-essential investment. If you have borrowed to invest in shares get rid of that loan and this practice.
With your financial income secure, now focus on your portfolio. Is the asset allocation appropriate? If this rally has made you nervous, shift towards fixed income, the secured variety, mind you. FDs are giving you returns of 10.5%, not the 6% you were getting some years ago. Use this time to rebalance your debt portfolio, lock into some of these debt instruments. Chances are you won`t see these rates in some years from now.
Investment tips---------------------
If you are a mutual fund investor, with a SIP, do nothing, just examine if your scheme is a sound one. Is the investment theme a broad one or does it tie the fund manager to a particular asset class.
Broad themes are better because exposure to a sector or segment is riskier now.
In equities, look at your investments. A stock may have halved from Rs 100, but it can halve again. Scrutinise its fundamentals; look at earnings growth for the next two years, its cash position, dilution prospects and, most importantly, management quality.
Throw out those fancy bull market ratios like EV/EBIDTA (enterprise value divided by earnings before interest, depreciation, tax and amortisation), P/E (price to earnings ratio) is back in fashion.
continued...................
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yep. I agree with rpandey.
According to me, the following are the stocks for next 10-15 years.
Reliance Industries,
ITC,
L and T,
Mercator Lines.
If somebody has 10000 today, then invest 2500 each in the above stocks and forget that amount for next 25 years.
Whoever invests would pray me rest of their life & even ask their children to pray me :-)
I am serious & not joking.
Thanks,
SandPM...
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Is indian economy collapsing????!!!!
Posted by :
rpandey
Hi marketman,
In today`s globalised world all economies are linked to one another more or less, so how could a major financial crises not affect Indian economy. Having said that Indian economy on the whole is less export dependent than say China`s excluding sectors like IT. Stock markets are not true barometers of strength of an economy esp in short term, they are dependent more on factors such as liquidity, valuations and expectations. They may rise or fall to crazy levels but does it mean the Indian growth story has ended? That is the question one needs to ask oneself.
Just because we are not making 10% returns every month does not mean Indian economy has collasped, it may be slowing down but if one looks around he can surely find good growth stories at interesting valuations now. The only need is to buy low and stay long enough to get your returns.
Rakesh
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Rajen Shah, Chief Investment Officer, Angel Broking, feels the Sensex may test 10,240 levels again or may even pierce that. "The long-term story of India continues to be positive. The short-term or next 3-9 months are going to be painful." ...
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According to Latha Venkatesh, CRR cut looks the most possible because CRR is a liquidity instrument and while 150 bps has been cut there is no reason why you cannot cut more....
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Today the stock market is funtioning like the old story of the red indiain who started cutting trees in anticipation of bad winter as predicted by the weather department, after numerous rounds to weather dept. and receiving the same reply that the winter this year would be the worst that any one has seen the red indian gets back to his people with the same information who in turn start cutting trees for wood to keep them warm during winter, at the last leg of the winter season when there was no cold breeze he again gets back to the weather dept and he gets the answer that this year winter is going to be the worst cause the red indians are cutting the trees.....here you go :) things are bad but not as bad as people are predicting it to be, may be if everyone starts liquiding their investments then it really will be very bad for the markets....so stay put or may be average out in good healthy valued stocks. I believe in the India growth story....
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Is indian economy collapsing????!!!!
Posted by : rpandey
Hi marketman,
In today`s globalised world all economies are linked to one another more or less, so how could a major financial crises not affect Indian economy. Having said that Indian economy on the whole is less export dependent than say China`s excluding sectors like IT. Stock markets are not true barometers of strength of an economy esp in short term, they are dependent more on factors such as liquidity, valuations and expectations. They may rise or fall to crazy levels but does it mean the Indian growth story has ended? That is the question one needs to ask oneself.
Just because we are not making 10% returns every month does not mean Indian economy has collasped, it may be slowing down but if one looks around he can surely find good growth stories at interesting valuations now. The only need is to buy low and stay long enough to get your returns.
Rakesh
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We are just 800 points away,it can fall to below 10000 levels as investors of all communities are in selling mood at the moment.... unless there is any unknown/unexpected miracle happens,it could be very difficult to prevent sensex to fall below 10000 mark.... now investors worry is after falling below 10000,will it be possible to cross 10000 again in the near term....?...
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Do you see the Sensex slipping below 10,000 in October?
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Dear Boarders,Do let us know your views and opinions on the poll.-MMB Messenger
Dear Kalidasji, thanks a lot!...
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A Nation on the Grill
Posted by : Kalidas
for shia
I will cover your points in next reply. I was asked by many how to deal the depressed market.`
I have posted under Market Strategy - short term - the brief of my article " REBALANCING PORTFOLIO IN DEPRESSED MARKET " which may satisfy the investors, naive, seasoned and professionals. An excel spreadsheet is also found in the side bar for download so that each investor may follow his own strategy to the extent he understands.
The article gives general guidance. Any investor intend to follow the advice is requested to understand that this is an approximate science. It is better to do something than nothing.
regards
Kalidas, Hong Kong
15/10/2008
Article ref: 08-008 - Rebalancing Portfolio in Depressed Market
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Yes, it is obvious now for sensex to slip below 10,000 level in october. Bcoz not a single upper level is managed by market, it is witnessing heavy profit booking at higher level, two levels may test 1. 9500 2. 8800., for upside it has to cross 12500. Market has given tremendous lession to everyone u r welcome for long term not for the short term, and keep ur work continue whereever u r, do not leave that regular work....
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Do you see the Sensex slipping below 10,000 in October?
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Hello lalitdeshpandey,
The above message is for you and I have wrongly addressed it to pradesh.
take note,
lovemeall26...
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by :
Lalitdeshpandey
Dear lovemeall26,,
I am more of a kind of Day Trader or say Positional Trader since I was given hint about crash, I sold off all of my holdings.However, when I feel market temporary trading at its bottom, I decide my strategy with buying and averaging at every 10 % fall in particular stock. I am that kind of trader having no liquidity crunch . I have never been in problem with my margins.
As regards, My trading this week, I already have booked profits on F n O and Option trading. My profits on investment was 100-135 % gross on ALL NIFTY-CE Option that I bought on his advice, which I booked on Monday... Tuesday also all strikes of Nifty were rocking. I trade on ATS and 50 % profits are always booked at particular rates automaticaly. We just need to feed the rates. system will ake care of the rest.
In Futures I had margin trading on 35 % of my capital..... 10-16 % profits on all of my Futures and almost 75 % aggregate profits.
Few but stunning trades are my choice by default.!!!!!
Kotak had given probable bottom of Nifty around 3177.. This is for your information.
Now Some jokes...........
ALL PERAMETERS ARE CHANGED NOW LOOK HERE MY FRIEND HAS SENT TO ME =====
HNI = HAS NO IDEA
PMS = PRE-MEDITATED SCAM
SIP = SUICIDE by INVESTING PATIENTLY
NIFTY = NO INCOME FOR THIS YEAR
FII = FRAUDULANT INTERNATIONAL INVESTOR
PE = PLUNGE ENDLESS.......
WE are in astock market not for our livelihood or survival.
If I gain, I am happy. If I loose, I enjoy trading!!!!!!!!
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Hello pradesh,
You are the first person whom I am seeing who is giving such detailed report of your trades. The only problem is that people usually tend to show thier positive trades and never show the trades in detail in which they have lost. I have never seen anyone show their losses, in detail like you have done. So no point showing your trades, because even if you hang me upside down, I wont believe that you have never lost in this market. Even the best traders have lost sometime of the other.
Now coming to business, you had mentioned that S kotak has said that this bottom of 3200 will hold for the next three months from last friday. In the morning I had written that it will not hold for the next three weeks also. Now, after seeing todays performance of the nifty, I can safely assume that we will break 3200 in the next three days only. Lol. What a tragedy and big difference too eh in three months and three days. anyway, take care
lovemeall26...
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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000
Posted by : Lalitdeshpandey
Dear lovemeall26,,
I am more of a kind of Day Trader or say Positional Trader since I was given hint about crash, I sold off all of my holdings.However, when I feel market temporary trading at its bottom, I decide my strategy with buying and averaging at every 10 % fall in particular stock. I am that kind of trader having no liquidity crunch . I have never been in problem with my margins.
As regards, My trading this week, I already have booked profits on F n O and Option trading. My profits on investment was 100-135 % gross on ALL NIFTY-CE Option that I bought on his advice, which I booked on Monday... Tuesday also all strikes of Nifty were rocking. I trade on ATS and 50 % profits are always booked at particular rates automaticaly. We just need to feed the rates. system will ake care of the rest.
In Futures I had margin trading on 35 % of my capital..... 10-16 % profits on all of my Futures and almost 75 % aggregate profits.
Few but stunning trades are my choice by default.!!!!!
Kotak had given probable bottom of Nifty around 3177.. This is for your information.
Now Some jokes...........
ALL PERAMETERS ARE CHANGED NOW LOOK HERE MY FRIEND HAS SENT TO ME =====
HNI = HAS NO IDEA
PMS = PRE-MEDITATED SCAM
SIP = SUICIDE by INVESTING PATIENTLY
NIFTY = NO INCOME FOR THIS YEAR
FII = FRAUDULANT INTERNATIONAL INVESTOR
PE = PLUNGE ENDLESS.......
WE are in astock market not for our livelihood or survival.
If I gain, I am happy. If I loose, I enjoy trading!!!!!!!!
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It is the beauty what you have written about portfolio rebalancing . You are too passionate to teach others. Thanks....
In reply to:
A Nation on the Grill
Posted by : Kalidas
for shia
I will cover your points in next reply. I was asked by many how to deal the depressed market.`
I have posted under Market Strategy - short term - the brief of my article " REBALANCING PORTFOLIO IN DEPRESSED MARKET " which may satisfy the investors, naive, seasoned and professionals. An excel spreadsheet is also found in the side bar for download so that each investor may follow his own strategy to the extent he understands.
The article gives general guidance. Any investor intend to follow the advice is requested to understand that this is an approximate science. It is better to do something than nothing.
regards
Kalidas, Hong Kong
15/10/2008
Article ref: 08-008 - Rebalancing Portfolio in Depressed Market
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