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BullSheetRules  
Joined on : 20th-May-2008
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Nick BULLSheetRules signifies that there are lot of BS around in stock market... A common investor is taken for a ride by tv media experts via Bear or Bull cartels even though a common investor can make MONEY quicker than those big players because of sheer small size.
Do check REAL DATA other than EMOTIONAL BS from different cartels! :)




Using our TA as a TOY, let me UNOFFICIALLY declare the start of BULL RUN! Nifty all set to go for 6500+ level! In case, Nifty goes below 4325, then we need to revisit the GAME as that means that Big players would bring Nifty below 4000 as part of the original below of 3400 value. Gud luk & happy investing!


ALERT Sep 05
Time to SIT on cash again to watch the GAME from sidelines!

ALERT Sep 01

Revisit to the GAME as SL was hit:

Game is still around the same point of SL. Signal is still not clear!

YEN DOLLAR ratio is going DOWN!

Dow could remain under pressure this week or month! Dow may go to 11200 - 11100 in coming days.

August has come and gone! Nifty is still above 4000 as part of that huge CHEATing! :) Short sellers please FEEL FREE to short sell to bring Nifty to 4000 :)

Using TA as a toy, do not take 100% position as of today as the GAME is not CLEAR! There could be weaknesses in Nifty in coming days in case Nifty followed DOW trend wise.

So PLAN your GAME accordingly!




Another point for Long Term investors: Just like everyone was not making PROFITS when Nifty had HIT high value in Jan. Same way, everyone was not making LOSSES when Nifty had HIT 3800. If those Long Term investors build good positions in certain stocks (I have some FILTERED Criteria for Indian stock market as mentioned in the homepage), those should be richly rewarded. As Buffet says that Stock market is designed to transfer MONEY from ACTIVE to PASSIVE. :)



One thing I can tell you by reading some of BS media over the weekend that we would start hearing many SELL calls in coming days OR there will be many BUY calls with very high TARGET. So, smart investors or traders should be careful about those FEAR and GREED calls as many ‘intermediate’ BUY calls for stocks will be met resulting in higher and higher TARGETS!.



Recent example that must be in the living memory of those traders/investors: Oil was supposed to reach 200 USD. That even did not manage to cross over 150 USD. :) GAME is SIMILAR whether the GAME is PLAYed in STOCK market or Oil Market or Gold Market or anywhere else. :) Same kind of BS and same kind of traps! :)



A side note: Nifty has not touched 3600. Those who are waiting for Nifty to touch 4000 again, please continue to wait and miss those money making opportunities. Remember Being RIGHT and Making MONEY is not SAME!




I have observed that there are many BOARDERS who intentionally MISGUIDE normal retail investors or traders. So please be careful of such boarders! Those boarders have short time perspectives at times and miss the overall GAME PLAN!




Remember Stock market is a GAME of REAL MONEY! Going ahead be careful of those BS experts. Do your own analysis to make those SELL or BUY decisions! After all, it is your hard-earned MONEY, not that of BS experts!




Wish everyone a gud luk & happy investing!



Also note: In case of some stock moves up and continuous BUYing is visible, then MAXIMUM UPSIDE needs to be RECALCULATED. Gud luk & happy investing!







Let us review our simple thumb rules again. :)



Stock market is a GAME of REAL MONEY.




Follow simple rules, GO Play and WIN.



These simple rules will work as long as public memory is SHORT and no major BUYIng or SELLing is done by an FII or MFs. TV experts continue with their old games.






BULLshit Rule No. #1:




When CNBC analysts or TV experts or Media say BUY a particular share, then wait for some days. Exit from the current position on immediate rise. The price will come down. Do not be in HURRY. Some big players offload their shares during that time.



Corollary Price will be UP for that or next one or two days. SELL if you have the HOLDing during the artificial RISE. BUY back later provided the script is fundamentally good.



When CNBC analysts or TV experts or Media say SELL a particular share, then wait for some days. SELL a few at current price and BUY again on reasonable dips. The price will go up. Do not be in HURRY. Some big players initially trigger STOP LOSS by SELLing shares with thin volume and then start ACCUMULATING shares in big way.



Corollary Price will be DOWN for that or next one or two days. SELL immediately to BUY back or make a FRESH BUY in next one or two days looking at the market sentiments.







BULLshit Rule No. #2:




Do not see price during the trading hours



Number of BUYers / number of SELLers during the trading hours indicate nothing. There are always some FAKE orders to get rid of weak hands. Some trades at high price or low price never get executed!



Number of BUYers / number of SELLers at the end of day indicate something.



Investors ideally should check the delivery figure from nseindia to get an idea what is going in a particular share.



Further clarifications:



For investors, Total Volume traded has no significance. Important is the volume of shares changing hands.



For traders, Total Volume traded has critical significance, specially, for day traders.



For example: SELL share A at 64 and BUY the same share A at 61. Overall volume: 2, actual share changing hands 1.



There are many strong reasons from the stock exchanges all over the world not to disclose the identities about BUYers and SELLers on daily basis -- Weak hands or Strong hands! Otherwise, about all so called experts and analysts, we would have known the difference between what they say and what they do. :)



This is a part of GAME involving real money.







BULLshit Rule No. #3:




Maximise Profits / Minimise losses - Encourage winners / Discourage losers - Upward or Downward Momentum - SELL or BUY decision



Known by many names - Maximise Profits / Minimise losses - Encourage winners / Discourage losers - Upward or Downward Momentum - SELL or BUY decision



Implementing this rule will require some expereince and practice.



- Once a stock get into INITIAL momentum, do not be in HURRY to SELL (Upward Momentum) or to BUY (Downward Momentum) during the trading hours.



- There must be some good reasons for the same for sudden BREAK OUTs.



- Decision to SELL or BUY should be taken at the end of day.



- Just keep in this point in mind: nobody can be always successful in BUYing at lowest price and SELLing at highest price.
If someone tells you this, then someone is telling you a lie.



- After initial break outs and with intermediate small up and downs, Strong BULLs PUSH the price to highs after highs just like Strong BEARS will PULL the price to lows after lows.



- Underlying reasons: HUGE shorts are built by BEARs during the downtrend which they need to cover in any case.
HUGE Longs are built by BULLs during the uptrend which they need to cover in any case.



SHORTing is better for investors as this help strong hands realise higher profits for their wise invesments.



E.g. if one do SHORTing, the price will go down by 10-20% or in worst case 50-60% But never 100%. However, the upward rally will be so fast that 10-20% or 50-60% will translate to more than 50-100-200%. In general, during SHORT, you will hear many BUY calls whereas during SHORT Covering, you will hear many SELL calls!



In general, gain in LONG is higher than gain in SHORT.



The price will never reach to new HIGH or LOW in one day as it takes some time to build a stable price range (base of Strong hands / weak hands) before PUSHing the price upward or PULLing the price downward. :)







BULLshit 10% Rule:



Using LIMIT order, there is one better way to do SELL or BUY call.



While placing an order, there is something called DISCLOSED QUANTITY. This can go as 10% of actual quantity depending on what you want to do.



For example:



One want to BUY 1 lakhs shares of Share A at 40.50 or whatever comfortable price. Make a BUY order and put the disclosed quantity as 10 thousand (10 % of 1 lakhs). One will get 1 lakhs shares once the price is reached even though order shown to the general public in queue is 10 thousand. :)



One want to SELL 1 lakhs of Share A at 40.50 or whatever comfortable price. Make a SELL order and put the disclosed quantity as 10 thousand (10 % of 1 lakhs). The moment price goes above your value, all shares are sold even though order shown to the general public in queue is 10 thousand. :)



This way, one will get better deal for the investment.



If the desired price is not reached, placing a MARKET ORDER is not a bad idea.






BullShit Theories Rule:



Bottomline fact is that Market is RANDOM.



Since market is random, everyone tries to come with a 'nice' theory to explain the RANDOMNESS. Be it fundamental theory or technical theory or sentimental theory. For some strange reasons, most people will make up elaborate theories about what is going on in the markets.



The media are always trying to explain the market even though they know nothing about the market. :) If you have noticed, all theories talks excessively on what is happening or has happened. Not much space or talks is about what is going to happen! :)



Price can go UP or DOWN without a valid reason. Still, media will come up with nice theories to explain the fall or rise.



Remember: Stock market in the end is a GAME of REAL Money.






YEN DOLLAR RATIO - Global cues RULE:



All global BULLshits related to x,y,z etc are reflected in YEN DOLLAR ratio. Higher the YEN DOLLAR, the better it is for equities.
Whenever in doubt about global cues, watch YEN to DOLLAR ratio. That ratio will decide the global market trend. (Fear / Hope)






BUY and HOLD rule:



To avoid confusion, some TA needs to be done.



Not always TRUE but general observation is:



HOLD and BUY a stock after a strong UPTREND means BIG PLAYER are offloading the stocks. (booking profits) Price will fall shortly. Even the players who entered earlier may start offloading shares to accumulate the shares at lower price later.



HOLD and BUY a stock after a strong DOWNTREND and base formation means some BIG PLAYERs are about to ENTER into the stock.






BUY on DIPS rule:



To avoid confusion, some TA needs to be done.



Not always TRUE but general observation is:



BUY on DIPS a stock after a strong UPTREND means BIG PLAYER are offloading the stocks. (booking profits) Price will fall shortly. Even the players who entered earlier may start offloading shares to accumulate the shares at lower price later.



BUY on DIPS a stock after a strong DOWNTREND and base formation means some BIG PLAYERs are about to ENTER into the stock and that dip is not likely to happen in short to medium term. This is to avoid investors or traders from ACCUMULATINGing the stocks.






Recommended Stocks - FILTERED Criteria for Indian Stock Market



For Indian contexts, some of the FILTERED criteria that I have:




- Stock should be in FnO -->MUST




- Volume should be high so that not easy to manipulate by a single group -->NICE TO HAVE





- Stock should be momentum stock. Stock should have everything for everyone – LT, MT , ST traders / investors -->NICE TO HAVE




Note: There are different players in the market. Each players may have his or her own filtered criteria. :)










Two key Recommended books:





a. Van K Tharp - Trade Your Way to Financial Freedom




b. Nicolas Darvas - How I Made $ 2 Million in the Stock Market




True, for trader cum investor mindset, one need to have both fundamental and technical approaches. :) This DARVAS book is not on recommended list by different BS experts as it openly compares stock market, specially, Wall Street with casino. :) In my view, just fundamental approach will not work as we need those casino dealers to make money! :)








Brief TA Overview:



Before going for TA, I would suggest you to read the recommended classic books including Darvas classic book if you have not read that. Nicolas Darvas - How I Made $ 2 Million in the Stock Market. :)




Conventional books related to complicated rules and information on TA will not work as most of those books are written by the similar BS experts! :) For every market, one will find a new Age TA Guru. That Guru will come into limelight once the event is over and enough money is made. :)




Anyway, coming back to books on TA, I have not found any worth one for 'evergreen' recommendation. If you know something specific, let me know. I may reread that to get new perspectives. :)




In TA, there are two set of INDICATORS. LAGGING indicators and LEADING indicators.
Simple TA theories rules (Lagging indicators) related to MACD / Stochs / EMA can be found in any good technical book. Next TA step in term of advancement would be Elliot Wave (Leading indicators) and those Japanese Candlestick Charting techniques.




Once the event is over, most of TA stuff will work beautifully as TA will just ignore or adjust the data to make those indicators look beautiful so that end user feels as if Holy Grail is found whereas that Holy Grail is within the trader or investor. :)





For easy reference, here is some list:




- For MACD / Stochs / RSI, check any good technical books




- Japanese Candlestick Charts - by Nison




- For elliot wave, one can visit EW site.








Simple TA Theory:



If someone love TA to make a BUY or SELL decision, then here is some information. Check charts on some free websites such as icharts . Unless we are in Strong UPTREND or Strong DOWNTREND! , Never use the default values for these indicators (Stochastic, MACD, RSI, EMA). Otherwise, you are BOUND to loose in the GAME! :) For some strange reasons, Fibonacci number works better. E.g. RSI (5), MACD (8, 13, 5), Stochastic (5,3,3), EMA (8, 13, 21, 34, 55,89, 144, 233) :)



All these indicators are lagging indicators. That implies that they lag after the event has happened. Details about them are available on various sites. if somone is not aware about them, please take some time to learn those simple TA.



Stochastic, MACD and RSI combinations work BEST in Range Bound market.
EMA works BEST in Strong Uptrend or Downtrend market



Meanwhile, we will adopt our BS decision rules to so called simple TA rules later! I hope, with some common SENSE and having a look on charts, it will be easier to adopt those rules to our simple TA! :)



Do remember that TA is just a TOY! We just need to supplement TA through FA and Sentiments!







BS Open / Transparent Theory about so called experts:



BS Open / Transparent Theory about so called experts: The stock market is incredibly full of BS, hype, manipulation and lies. It is no wonder that so many investors and traders are confused–with over 90% of traders losing money! (90%+ according to one of the statistics). How can you invest with or listen to anyone when you cannot see EXACTLY how they make money or when those experts just keep changing their statements every other day? :)



Most financials experts will share complicated RULES through their cartels as if they know everything about the market. Refer to our BULLShit Theories Rule.





Continuing our BS talks, some of our BULLshit rules work not because those rules are some SECRETS of stock markets. All of them are just part of common senses! Stock market is not some CHARITY place. Just like playing CHESS against COMPUTER, Stock market is a GAME of REAL Money where GAME is against so called Mr. Market. In this technical age, Mr. Market is increasingly getting replaced with AUTOMATED Computer Trading! What does it mean: Feed a wrong data to that computer, see the results. :)



The best part about our current strategy is that anyone can do this–no IIT / IIM / Ivy league education required, no wealthy connections and certainly not much intelligence required. :) It is all about dedication, adapting to evolving patterns and a willingness to learn.



May be, in future, I will post modified rules based some simple TA rules (Stochastic, MACD, RSI, EMA).




If someone is HUMBLE enough to accept that Market is SUPREME, then see the results. Those who would remain stubborn to their views will quickly be out of the market! This is how the GAME of Stock market is designed. :)







Let us play KBC::



Who is the biggest investor in the Indian Stock Market?



Your options are:



1. Foreign Institutional Investors



2. High Net worth Individual



3. Life Insurance Corporation of India (LIC)



4. Banks (Foreign or Indian)



Think for a moment. Clue is: Answer is not 1 as those so called BS experts want you to believe so. :) Just do some study and find the RIGHT answer! :)






Stock market is a GAME of REAL MONEY.



Follow simple rules, GO Play and WIN.



Another note: Our rules are not for BUY and HOLD investors. Our rules are for fast MONEY swing Traders. If I have a choice between making money quickly and making money slowly, I prefer to make it quickly. Holding a share for years or decades and hoping for an eventual profit simply does not appeal to me.



As a swing trader, we need to give 15-30 minutes a day to decide and make MONEY in stock market. There is no NEED to be in FnO or sitting in front of computer or terminal for long hours. Retail investors or traders should use the INEFFICIENCY in the market. For us, stock market is NOT only the GAME. We have life beyond stock market. We also want to travel, relax, pursue other business and enjoy our family. Being in front of terminals, making lot of money and becoming ghosts to the rest of world is NOT our aim. So, a huge FORTUNE is worthless if our quality of life declines. :)



BIG players always want general public to be EMOTIONALLY attached, be it shares, home, cars or anything. They always like them to be LONG TERM investors. Otherwise how will they make MONEY. :)



As they say, there are million of ways to make MONEY in Dalal Street, ours based on some simple rules is just one of them. These RULES will work as long as Media or tv experts continue with their OLD GAMES. Buffet knew this from the beginning and hence built a FORTUNE. We just need to build a small FORTUNE. :)





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Better to SELL those stocks where Lehman has good stake in order to BUY later! :)

If someone know, please share the information how to easily identify where Lehman has strong shares just like Bear sterns had in the past??
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The Korean government plans to privatize KDB by 2012 and transform it into a globally competitive investment bank to spearhead the development of the Korean financial market.
'The Korean government has ambitious plans for KDB. Although this is a deal not for the faint of heart, it is also an opportunity that comes once a century,' Kim noted.
Nonetheless, the timing is far from ideal. Most Korean financial institutions are reportedly scaling back overseas investment, with the global impact of the U.S. credit crisis showing few signs of abating.

Moreover, another state-run entity's recent bet on a Wall Street stake has gone the wrong way so far. The country's sovereign wealth fund, Korea Investment Corp., sank $2 billion into Merrill Lynch (MER: Merrill Lynch & Co., Inc News, chart, profile, more MER 26.73, +0.52, +2.0%) earlier this year in exchange for about 3% stake. Since then, Merrill Lynch shares have slumped more than 50%. The slide in share prices prompted KIC to convert its preferred shares into common stock ahead of schedule.
Against such a backdrop, KDB will be hard-pressed to convince the regulators that injecting cash into a troubled Wall Street giant will eventually pay off. By all accounts, it will be an uphill task given the uncertainties surrounding Lehman's future viability.

Last week, Morgan Stanley predicted Lehman will report a third-quarter loss of $2.80 a share, on the back of a $3.5 billion write-down, and said drastic measures were needed.
Standard & Poor's Equity Research also recently projected Lehman to write down about $61 billion in mortgage assets and forecast the investment bank will record a loss of $7.44 a share in fiscal 2008 versus its earlier outlook of $4.84.
Crisis of confidence
KDB's most ambitious foray abroad may also be derailed due to problems closer to home. Korea is now grappling with its own financial woes amid escalating concerns that the country is headed for a crisis of confidence due to mounting concerns over its external position.

Korea's foreign debt totaled $419.8 billion at the end of June, up sharply from $382.2 billion at the end of 2007. Short-term debt, or debt maturing within one year, reached $175.6 billion, accounting for 68% of total debt at the end of June, according to data from the Financial Supervisory Service.
Korea's foreign exchange reserves stood at $258.1 billion, the sixth largest in the world. But worries over whether Korea has sufficient funds to honor its obligations have emerged in recent weeks as the government has been dipping into the reserve to defend the Korean won against the U.S. dollar, an exercise that appears to be futile as the won continues to retreat. Since the beginning of the year, the won has fallen about 17% against the greenback.
The Korea Composite Stock Price Index, or the Kospi, has skidded some 25% since the end of 2007 as foreign investors continue to exit the market. In the first eight months of this year, foreign investors have been net sellers of 33.8 trillion won ($29.89 billion) in Korean shares, an amount that even financial regulators consider 'significant.'

'There is no possibility of a financial crisis. Our economic resilience and the structure of the financial system have strengthened in the past 10 years and concerns about a crisis have been triggered more by psychological factors rather than any deterioration in fundamentals,'.
Clearly, Korea's financial market jitters highlight the difficulties that KDB faces as it navigates its way to a successful deal with Lehman. And even after an acquisition has been finalized, only time will tell whether KDB's gamble will pay long-term dividends or whether Lehman is just a trophy whose luster has faded....
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Better to SELL those stocks where Lehman has good stake in order to BUY later! :)

If someone know, please share the information how to easily identify where Lehman has strong shares just like Bear sterns had in the past??
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KDB's road to Lehman paved with pitfalls
Analysis: Stake could prove a long-term win or faded trophy deal
By Sue Chang, MarketWatch
Last update: 4:23 p.m. EDT Sept. 5, 2008

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Outside of Asia, Korea Development Bank is not a household brand. In fact, many in Korea, although familiar with the name, aren't quite sure what it does. That is likely to change if it succeeds in buying a stake in Lehman Brothers, according to analysts.
'Given that KDB is not already well established as a global/regional [investment banking] player and given Lehman's extensive IB franchise globally, we read KDB's response as a natural interest in a potential opportunity. In particular with relation to the Capital Market Consolidation Act, to be effective locally as of 2009, KDB could stand to benefit from the LEH's brand recognition, business know-how and talented human resources,' analysts at JPMorgan said in a recent research note.
Established in 1954 in the aftermath of the Korean War to supply capital to reconstruct and develop the Korean economy, KDB has, until now, quietly carried out its role as a policy bank.

Indeed, most thought KDB's plan to invest in Lehman (LEH: Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc LEH 16.20, +1.03, +6.8%) was bust after Kwang-Woo Jun, chairman of the Financial Services Commission, publicly cautioned the state-run entity last week.

'We believe KDB should approach the deal with extreme caution. In principal, we feel that it is inappropriate for a public institution to take on so much risk or take the lead in such deals,' Jun said.
He added that although the government welcomes the opportunity for Korean financial institutions to globalize and seek new growth engines, such efforts should be undertaken with full risks in mind, given the financial uncertainties at the moment.
The way things usually work in a strictly-regulated market like Korea's, a financial regulator expressing doubts about a specific deal is akin to a death knell.
But one factor that may help explain why KDB's interest in Lehman remains alive despite the lack of government enthusiasm is the fact that Governor Euoo-Sung Min, the chief executive at KDB, is a former Lehman executive. He served as the investment bank's chief executive in Korea before taking up his current post.
'Min has a reputation of being a deal maker, a good deal maker,' said Abraham Kim, an analyst with Eurasia Group.
In the face of the government's resistance, Min reportedly has revised his proposal to buying a 25% stake for about $6 billion through a consortium rather than taking a 50% stake via a solo bid.
As of yet, there are no details on who may join the consortium, with most banks linked to a possible deal vehemently denying their involvement -- underscoring the risks inherent in such high-profile deals.
'[A]s with any acquisition, there could be risk of overpayment or a need for additional capital injection post-acquisition, and it could take more time to fully achieve synergies than has been factored in,' said the JPMorgan analysts.
The analysts are so negative on the potential pitfalls that they recommended investors avoid any banks involved in the deal.
'We believe any Korean banks/FHC that would partner with KDB in a potential deal could bear any potential acquisition risks along with KDB, and we would expect most of the benefits to be difficult to realize in the near term,' they said.

Pursuing Lehman through a consortium is more 'politically palatable' than KDB's original plan and one that the Korean government is less likely to block as it addresses the dual concern about excessive risk and complicating its privatization, according to Kim.
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Better to SELL those stocks where Lehman has good stake in order to BUY later! :)

If someone know, please share the information how to easily identify where Lehman has strong shares just like Bear sterns had in the past??
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Crunch Time For Lehman
Liz Moyer, 09.03.08, 2:27 PM ET

Time is running out for Lehman Brothers Chief Executive Richard Fuld to come up with a plan.

Wednesday, the Korean press reported that state-run Korea Development Bank proposed to buy a 25% stake in Lehman Brothers (nyse: LEH - news - people ), along with other Korean banks, in a deal worth .3 billion. According to the report in Chosun Ilbo, the proposal included separating some of Lehman\\`s .7 billion in mortgage-related assets into a \\`bad bank\\` to shield the investment bank from further risk of loss.

Negotiations have been going on for weeks, however, and no solid deal has been announced, intensifying the speculation about Lehman\\`s--and Fuld\\`s--future. The Korean bank didn\\`t help in that regard, according to a statement circulated Wednesday that makes it sound like nothing is imminent.

\\`In order to become competitive as a global investment bank, KDB has been looking into an M&A deal with overseas investment banks, including Lehman Brothers, as well as an asset management company, but nothing specific has been decided,\\` KDB said in a statement.

A Lehman spokesman wouldn\\`t comment on the Korean press report.

Lehman is due to report fiscal third-quarter results this month, and many expect billion to billion more in write-downs and the elimination of more than 1,000 jobs. Many also expect Fuld to detail a game plan to shore up Lehman\\`s balance sheet, either with new capital, asset sales or both. Lehman already raised billion in capital in a stock sale in June.

The drafting of a plan has been slow, however, with plenty of hurdles tossed in the way in the meantime.

Ospraie Management said Tuesday it was shutting down its .8 billion Ospraie Fund after a 26% decline in August and a 38% decline from the start of the year. Lehman bought a 20% stake in Ospraie\\`s management company three years ago, when many rival Wall Street companies were snapping up hedge fund investments to round out their asset-management divisions.

After closing the commodities fund, Ospraie will still have billion under management, just a small part of Lehman\\`s asset and investment management division, which manages 7 billion, or even of its billion in alternative investments.

Still, it\\`s more bad news at a time when Lehman needs something uplifting. \\`It\\`s certainly not something to ignore,\\` says Sander O\\`Neill analyst Jeffrey Harte, noting, however, that Lehman has bigger concerns.

A few weeks ago, the speculation centered on what the bank would do with the .7 billion worth of mortgages on its books. Lehman could sell the billion worth of commercial mortgages, for example, but Fuld seems to be holding out for a non-fire-sale price. Recall that Merrill Lynch (nyse: MER - news - people ) sold billion worth of collateralized debt obligations for 22 cents on the dollar to Lone Star.

Fuld also is batting around the idea of selling part of the investment management division, in particular the Neuberger Berman fund group. A sale could fetch up to billion.

A sale, however, would chip away at Lehman\\`s prized business. Asset and investment management brought in .8 billion in total revenues for the first six months of the year, up 24% from the same period last year. Meanwhile, the capital markets division, Lehman\\`s biggest, lost 3 million.

Lehman\\`s book value is per share, but its stock trades at . Lehman\\`s market capitalization of billion and the estimated billion sale price of Neuberger Berman, implies the market puts a low value on Lehman\\`s remaining operations.

Bove thinks Lehman could be the target of a hostile takeover if something isn\\`t done quickly. \\`This saga is not likely to continue much longer.\\`...
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Better to SELL those stocks where Lehman has good stake in order to BUY later! :)

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Lehman shares rebound as analyst confirms rating
Associated Press 09.05.08, 5:45 PM ET

NEW YORK -

Shares of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. recovered some lost ground Friday after a Sandler O\\`Neill & Co. analyst said he expects the troubled investment bank to survive the credit crisis.

Shares gained .05, or 6.9 percent, to .22. Shares are down 75 percent this year.

In a note to clients Friday, analyst Jeff Harte reiterated a \\`Hold\\` rating and a target price on the stock.

\\`We believe there will be a time to buy Lehman, but that time has not yet arrived,\\` he said.

Harte slashed his fourth-quarter estimate to a loss of .50 per share from a profit of 61 cents per share, to reflect his assumption that the bank will record .5 billion in additional write-downs on troubled assets.

Analysts polled by Thomson Reuters, on average, anticipate a loss of 23 cents per share in the fourth quarter.

Harte said he believes Lehman\\`s current balance sheet has the ability to absorb an additional billion of write-downs.

Lehman stock has been particularly volatile lately. It was among the hardest hit stocks in the financial sector Thursday, falling 10.4 percent to close at .17, as investors continued to worry about the fallout from bad mortgage debt. The stock had climbed the day before on reports that state-owned Korea Development Bank and partners were looking to buy a stake in the bank.

Investors have speculated in recent weeks that Lehman may strike a deal to obtain a capital injection.
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Based on study of charts, unless someone is convinced that Nifty will go above 4650+, smart investors or traders should take the opportunity to book profits as mentioned by Alert on Sep 15. :)

Let those BS experts first take Nifty above 4650+ to confirm that BIG PLAYers are interested to take Nifty UP! :)

Gud luk & happy investing! :)...
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Translation test: successful!

Btw I used google translator for Hindi translator! Hindi translation looks a bit funny! Still, good to know that MMB now supports different language characters!

Gud luk & happy investing!...
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Wow let us see if we can see HINDI letters!

Now we will enjoy the GAME!

As of now, Do not BUY those stocks where Lehman has stake.

Good luck and happy investing!

अब हम इस खेल का आनंद लें !

न खरीदें , जहां उन स्टॉक Lehman हिस्सेदारी है .

निवेश और खुश किस्मत अच्छी !...
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