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30 Aug 2008 01:38

I Hope you have booked partial profits on 29-Aug-2008, as the global conditions is again turn in to bad today. DOW closed 165 points Down....

In reply to:

28th July

Posted by : mohanji

Radhikaji,
Thanks for advising yesterday.I rolled over and made some money today to compensate my losses in puts.Regards

30 Aug 2008 01:24

I hope it should not one day syndrome, the markets should show strength for atleast two weeks from now on, irrespective of what global markets, and CRUDE does, Then only we can think we are firmly going to go up, otherwise this rally will also be sold in to as our earliar rallies....

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Mkts cheer inflation, shrug off GDP nos

Posted by : MMB Messenger

It was a great day for the market. We saw a 500-point rally on the Sensex, and a 150-point rally on the Nifty. Even a fairly lacklustre GDP number of 7.9% got completely shrugged off by the Street. We had some help from inflation, global markets and crude.

30 Aug 2008 01:09

Because once the options premium amount crosses 2 lakh peer month ICICI direct will automatically reverse it to 65 Rs per lot for options...

which brokerage you are talking about?...

In reply to:

WILL NIFTY HIT 3600

Posted by : vam_aru

from which trading house?

30 Aug 2008 01:06

from which trading house? ...

In reply to:

WILL NIFTY HIT 3600

Posted by : alaex

Hi aru

I
can arrange option brokreae of 65 re for u.......per lot......irrespective of the value.....and good exposure for option trding ..........

30 Aug 2008 00:36

It was a great day for the market. We saw a 500-point rally on the Sensex, and a 150-point rally on the Nifty. Even a fairly lacklustre GDP number of 7.9% got completely shrugged off by the Street. We had some help from inflation, global markets and crude....

30 Aug 2008 00:14

If you sold puts and the profit calculated like this:

suppose the strike price is 4300 , and you have sold the PUT at 30 Rs., Market closed at 4220 at expiry, Then your loss will be 4300-4220 = 80 * 50 ( 1 lot ) , you have already received 30 rs , so your loss is around 50 * 50 rs only. ( brokerages extra )

I think the 4300 PUTS are closed at 82 not 4200 , am i right?
...

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Option positions taken-OT

Posted by : mohanji

Dear Eshers,
quote
IF you sell the 4300 CE and if they nifty ends at 4200, you will get all the premium you collected. The current premium comes into the picture only if you havent squeared off your position. If you dont do anything and let the market expire, the premium will turn to zero automatically by EOD and you could take the entire 200.

unquote
Please correct me if I am wrong.If you don\\`t square of your sold options at the end of expiry,your option will be squared off at the last traded price which may not be zero(rather it may be quite big also depending upon the market condition at the end of expiry. for example on last thursday put nifty 4200 ended at rs 82)and it may be excercised also being ITM.Your veiws please.Refards

30 Aug 2008 00:08

oops earlier msg by mistake went blank sorry abt that.
PLS READ RAKESH JHUN JHUN VIEW ON MKTS ONE BOARDER HAS POSTED IN JAI CORP MSGS:
THEY ARE TRUE TO HIS STYLE-MOSTLY HE IS BULLSIH BUT DOES NOT KNOW( who knows tell me) when they will rebound.
he does not care abt us mkts though.but the fact remains when fii outflows did impact our mkts greatly.so i beg to differ with the big daddy.
today rally is one of those we hv witnessed in the last 4-6 months.
am not a tech expert but it looks like mkts will remain rangebound till inflation is less than 10 pc,till govt is in place in mar-apr 09, till fii inflows start vigorously,till inputs costs are subdued n finally oil actually settles at 95 §:
EVEN IF SOME OF THE WISHLIST OF INVESTORS FRUCTIFIES THERE WILL BE A RESPITE TO INVESTORS;PRICES WILL BE REASONABLE FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO QUIT THE MKT:
v shape recovery is out of question considering geopolitical fears in india n rest of the world.
rj has said but this si the BEST TIME TO INVEST IN THE MKT:
THOSE WHO MISSED IN JAN;THOSE WHO NEVER INVESTED IN THE MKT EARLIER BEST CHANCE TO PUT UR MONEY EVERY WEEK DURING MKT FALLS:
...

30 Aug 2008 00:07

Radhikaji,
Thanks for advising yesterday.I rolled over and made some money today to compensate my losses in puts.Regards...

In reply to:

28th July

Posted by : radhika_nandlal

mohanji,

Roll over to sept futures coz it will close higher when august draws clsoe to expiry.

30 Aug 2008 00:04

Dear Eshers,
quote
IF you sell the 4300 CE and if they nifty ends at 4200, you will get all the premium you collected. The current premium comes into the picture only if you havent squeared off your position. If you dont do anything and let the market expire, the premium will turn to zero automatically by EOD and you could take the entire 200.

unquote
Please correct me if I am wrong.If you don\\`t square of your sold options at the end of expiry,your option will be squared off at the last traded price which may not be zero(rather it may be quite big also depending upon the market condition at the end of expiry. for example on last thursday put nifty 4200 ended at rs 82)and it may be excercised also being ITM.Your veiws please.Refards...

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Option positions taken-OT

Posted by : eshers

Dear Aru,

IF you sell the 4300 CE and if they nifty ends at 4200, you will get all the premium you collected. The current premium comes into the picture only if you havent squeared off your position. If you dont do anything and let the market expire, the premium will turn to zero automatically by EOD and you could take the entire 200.

Hope its clear.

Cheers

29 Aug 2008 23:35

On Monday we may see a slightly downward bias trading, as Crude is catching up and DOW is down around 150 points...

Let's see how monday spans out...!!!...

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28th July

Posted by : mohanji

vam,for carrying over to monday ,do you suggest any posn in options?thanks

29 Aug 2008 23:29

In my idea , when you have a losing position you should make a decision to come out with out any hesitation or If you beleive that the slump is temporary then have enough cash with and keep on rotate till you get the Price.

I have posted one discussion named TRADING : How to avoid Trading Mistakes? in the Market view , Other Market topics , you can visit and add your views....

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Can Nifty sustain above 4600 this week?

Posted by : Karthikn

Yes I came out with a loss. Essar oil was bitter experience
Regards

29 Aug 2008 23:08

dear Marketbear
At the beginning of your report for the first week of september, you had mentioned \\\\...

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bounce back tommorow

Posted by : marketbear

market will be bullish for atleast next week. Nifty can touch 4600 level within next week. Do not think that only you are a big bull in the market

29 Aug 2008 23:03

Hi Novice,
That is exactly what I have been saying in my last few posts. I am a software engineer and I can vouch for the fact that this year no one in IT industry has got a hike anything like previous years. In fact, adjusted for inflation, the average industry wide hike is close to zero percent. And seems like things will stay the same for another 2-3 years. No one in our company is looking to buy a house now (we are in Gurgaon). A lot of companies have stopped hiring. I am sure other sectors and industries will be hit more or less equally hard as disposable incomes diminish and people go into saving mode from spending mode....

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WILL NIFTY HIT 3600

Posted by : novice1000

dear pkk07,

Yes... you are absolutely right.It was excessive credit beyond the acceptable limits sucked the future growth also.Now economy has to cool down until some of the infrastructure bottlenecks are sorted out.

present govt didnt care about the infrastructure which is going to pose a great threat for the growth rates in the near future.


Its been almost 3 years ever since the present govt started talking about the Ultra mega power projects and i really doubt even a single project crossed the stage of drawing boards as of now.

And now the slowdown is inevitable and there will be a lag affect which will be seen next year also.

Some people may not believe it until they see it.

And its too premature to say inflation is coming down.

The risk crude prices moving up again is very much there.

Fiscal management is not at all looking encouraging.

Pay hikes will add to the existing woes.

While RBI is trying to fight inflation with its limited arsenal like tighter monetary policy, the fiscal measures are going completely in the opposite direction nullifying the affects of measures initiated by RBI.

If at all markets witness any temporary rally in the near term, it wont sustain.

regards

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