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13 Oct 2008 16:11

off course yes.fully agreed...

In reply to:

Where is the BOTTOM ? Sensex-10587/Nifty-3177

Posted by : CompletelyWrong

Nodick, do you agree with my comments on Pyramid Saimira board.

13 Oct 2008 16:05

Dear Sriman35,

Ok.. I mis - Spelled earlier. Now corrected....

This is the data for Friday..

Sharad Kotak Of

Kotak Investment

Opines that WHAT LOW FORMED ON FRIDAY CAN BE THE LOW FOR NEXT THREE MONTHS..............

Sensex Low on FRIFAY 10-10-2008 is =10239.76
NIFTY Low on FRIDAY 10-10-2008 is = 3198.95

Now let us see what happens from Monday.....

Lalit
...

In reply to:

Where is the BOTTOM ? Sensex-10587/Nifty-3177

Posted by : Sriman35

Hi Lalit desh pandey,

It is a matter of time before that target is reached. Though I have predicted a target of 8500 for sensex.. I am not 100% confident. But 4 digit mark is a certain (atleast in intra-day).

Present situation is beyond any one`s guess/analysis.

Regards,
Sri (Sriman and not Sriram)


13 Oct 2008 15:59

for the followers who passed away.
who followed the wrong prophet .....

first

Nifty may rally to 5300-5500 levels in June: Ashwani Gujral
2008-05-16 09:31:51 Source : Bazaar/CNBC-TV18

second

I am in Reliance Field off Kakinada (Krishna Godavari Basin), buzzing

with activity. production expected to commence, may be mid-August.

Watch the Reliance counters in next few days which will be enough to

sustain the indices. Weather is no good and the roll and pitch of the

vessel makes internet connectivity a big trouble apart from myself

having to get tied up on Bridge. Will update in general, not exactly on

day-to-day basis.

17 Jul 2008:- Hope, all my friends are fully invested as on date as we

have seen 3800-3850 range yesterday. Now, hold tight, till we see a 25%

appreciation. Those with short term view may sell with 10%

appreciation.


It was joetom may his soul rest in peace.

and yet more
...

13 Oct 2008 15:59

Nodick, do you agree with my comments on Pyramid Saimira board....

In reply to:

Where is the BOTTOM ? Sensex-10587/Nifty-3177

Posted by : Nodick

Really great call if it was made ... and congrates and Pandeyji problem is that most of investors are idiot retail investors who want to stay in fools` paradise and never like to read any message pertaining to mandi or price down. Let them sink if they will loose we will earn

13 Oct 2008 15:59

I am concerned about delivery of Goods-RESULTS and not
------Who delivers; liked or desliked person
------ My purpose solved....................

I never test knowledge of vegetable seller when I buy vegetable. I stress on quality.
I never ask or comment on shop keeper about his knowledge of English. I just concentrate on what I want and whether he is in a position to deliver or not.

I am concerned about making maney in the stock market , and most of the boarders do have this goal only if they are traders or investors.

I am concerned only about what is posted on stock market when I log to MMB.......

In reply to:

Is indian economy collapsing????!!!!

Posted by : radhika_nandlal

Lalitdesh,

Quote
Talking about Indian and world economy, to my opinion ,is non precedented for 99 % of theinvestors. They want reply in streight lines.....
Unquote

Does the above statement make any sense????????You have been going on too long with phrases that would make Bush forget English altogether..

Ask mamashree to edit and then post it.

13 Oct 2008 15:56

Yes. We have no reason to replicate the failure of US banking model to India. The bad asset quality that the US banks have mantained for long coupled with the negative global cues throughout this calendar year made banking bleed as much. India has a reasonable asset quality overall. The NPA s could rise but they would still be a controllable fraction. ...

In reply to:

Mkts near day's high, as European indices up 5%

Posted by : MMB Messenger

Bulls are back with vengeance. Benchmark indices are witnessing huge buying interest led by banking, metal, technology, telecom, capital goods and power stocks. European markets have opened with huge gap up; FTSE shot up by 206 points, CAC up 173 points and DAX rose 225 points, which have helped our markets as well.

13 Oct 2008 15:55

se Yamada, Managing Director, Louise Yamada Technical Research Advisors, feels the Nifty could fall to the 2,800 levels if it slips below the 3,000. ...

13 Oct 2008 15:51

Guys
I fail to understand one thing is that if others (US and Europe) are printing currency in their backyard without any real backing for them (securities - like gold) then why is everybody including us trying to get thier paper (as good a Zimbabwian paper (where they have million dollar notes with which they might be able to buy a loaf of bread at best). Something worng in my uinderstanding or we are all being taken for a big ride to nowhere land ??
Calrifications are most welcome....

In reply to:

Why Lehman Failed & others didn\\\\\\\\`t . P-II

Posted by : Kalidas

for Richie,

Good puzzling question for many. Here are the answers ( I can not dilate on them here)

Richie:
Initially, when the stocks go up, the gold will come down and US$ may go up
Kalidas:
when you talk of $ going up, specify which stocks go up or down - US or India?
- Normally, when the stocks go up, it is known to be a measure of confidence, so the gold goes down. The $ goes up because to buy US stocks, one need to buy $. (It does not happen nowadays)

Richie:
Sir don`t you think that the current crisis is due to the lack of money in the system ?

Kalidas:
Right and wrong.
Right: The money disappeared into losses, so there is lack of money. It is like you lost 500,000 and have nothing left in the bank account.
Wrong: Every day you hear that FED prints $700 billions, FED intervenes with $900 billions, European Union inputs $650 billions (Euro 500 Bln) British Government pumps in 300 bln pounds in the form of take over and money supply

Further, these Kubers in charge of finances, have started issuing blanket guarantee for all banks. How could you stand a guarantor for some one when you do not know his status or extent of obligations?

Today, a stage has come that A Bank does not trust another bank. After few months, we will have situation that One Nation does not Trust another Nations. What will they do then?

Richie:
Don`t you think that the current rally in gold is also speculative

Kalidas: Anything one does not know and still try to meddle into it, it is called Speculation. All nations are now speculating because they promise to float/guarantee/disburse billions of paper currencies without knowing what for? This is speculative.

Gold is the only commodity which is not speculative over long run. My family bought Gold in 1961 for Rs 260/tola which is now Rs 13000/tola, that is 50 times in 50 years or 100% gain every year on simple rate basis. Property is next.

When we try to marry, we tend to speculate that the bride will be very good, she will mix up with the family, she will take care of entire family etc for which you spend rs 5 lakhs towards wedding expenses (investment). If the bride is really good enough, your stock did well and you would say that it was investment. If bride is not really that good, you would blame yourself for speculating.

The difference beween the Investment and speculation is as thin as the difference between Dawn and Day or Night; difference between DUSK and Evening or Night.

Richie:
Jab Insaan Ke paas paisa nahi hota, to kya woh sona lene nikelega kya

Kalidas: when the people distrust paper money, that you call wealth, they will go only for Gold. In second world war or partition time between India and pakistan, people fled their homes with gold, not paper currency which may not be valid in other country.

Jas Sona hi sachha paisa hai to Nakli paisa ki kya jaroorat?

Kalidas, Hong Kong
13-10-2008

13 Oct 2008 15:44

Yes. A conservative policy has paid in handsome measure....

In reply to:

Do you believe that the Indian banking system is healthy?

Posted by : MMB Messenger

Dear Boarders,Do let us know your views and opinions on the poll.-MMB Messenger

13 Oct 2008 15:38

yes, though indian banking system is sound compared to US, they will not remain insulated from the global slowdown. And they will be affected due to global volatility and our banks will make movements accordingly. Our banking systems are strong except ICICI Bank which soon can be taken over by government or SBI if there is any further deterioration in it`s financial conditions. Though bank is claiming that it has no expore to sub-prime assets, it is lying. If such happens then indian banks will be affected in short term. US subprime like situation can arise in India. But India will be least affected compared to US....

In reply to:

Do you believe that the Indian banking system is healthy?

Posted by : MMB Messenger

Dear Boarders,Do let us know your views and opinions on the poll.-MMB Messenger

13 Oct 2008 15:36

ICICI Bank leads gainers from Sensex pack - Battered Bankex bounces back.


Reliance Infrastructure, Sterlite Industries, Reliance Communications and HDFC Bank are among the other major gainers from the Sensex pack. Small-cap, mid-cap indices underperform Sensex

The BSE Sensex was up 761.26 points, or 7.23%, to 11,289.11.
ICICI Bank galloped 17.58% to Rs 428.10 after the private sector bank’s chief executive K.V. Kamath reiterated that deposits with the bank are safe, and that the bank had a cushion to take domestic and overseas shocks. The stock was the biggest gainer from the 30-share Sensex pack.

Kamath today, 13 October 2008 told a television channel that the bank remains well capitalized and that its capital adequacy remains 150% of normal requirement. The bank currently holds Rs 90,000 crore of government securities and its global subsidiaries have $2.5 billion in cash. The bank’s balance sheet was adequately cushioned, Kamath said.
Reliance Infrastructure spurted 16.34% to Rs 599.50. It was the second biggest gainer from the Sensex pack.

Sterlite Industries surged 16.03% to Rs 318.20. It was the third biggest gainer from the Sensex pack. On 24 September 2008, its board decided to scrap a restructuring scheme.

Reliance Communications moved up 12.47% to Rs 267. It was the fourth biggest gainer from the Sensex pack.

HDFC Bank gained 11.53% to Rs 1167. It was the fifth biggest gainer from the Sensex pack. Most of the banking stocks recovered from last week’s heavy fall boosted by finance minister P Chidambaram\`s statement that the government was working on more measures to infuse liquidity in the banking system and increase the confidence of depositors and investors. -CM
...

13 Oct 2008 15:34

Lalitdesh,

Quote
Talking about Indian and world economy, to my opinion ,is non precedented for 99 % of theinvestors. They want reply in streight lines.....
Unquote

Does the above statement make any sense????????You have been going on too long with phrases that would make Bush forget English altogether..

Ask mamashree to edit and then post it.
...

In reply to:

Is indian economy collapsing????!!!!

Posted by : Lalitdeshpandey

What Kotak Investment opined on Friday is most relevent for investors. I have posted his views on my board. We do not want to be the Economist of the country. We are just having simple logic to be given by knowledgeble people that shall we start buying ?? Market may fall further?? Correction is over???

Talking about Indian and world economy, to my opinion ,is non precedented for 99 % of theinvestors. They want reply in streight lines.....

13 Oct 2008 15:23

What Kotak Investment opined on Friday is most relevent for investors. I have posted his views on my board. We do not want to be the Economist of the country. We are just having simple logic to be given by knowledgeble people that shall we start buying ?? Market may fall further?? Correction is over???

Talking about Indian and world economy, to my opinion ,is non precedented for 99 % of theinvestors. They want reply in streight lines........

In reply to:

Is indian economy collapsing????!!!!

Posted by : marketman

We have been listening indian growth stories for few years.... our financial markets too witnessed the same trend till recently.... our policy makers repeatedly assuring the investors about the strongness of indian economy.... they are saying india is immune to world financial crisis....

But indian financial markets too collapsing along with the global cues.... almost all investors and many corporates are already in deep troubles.... few are doubting at some pvt sector banks for their suspicious behaviour....

We are also part of globe,india is not from any other planet.... this common logic is ignored by our policy makers and talking nonsenses on daily basis to confuse/mislead the indian investors aswell as indian public....

Atleast the chiefs of global economy taking few steps to control the situation,we havnot seen any types of mesures or useful decisions so far in india.... already stock markets fell more than 50% from their peaks within few months.... banks are struggling for survival,many corporates facing liquidty problem,few companies at the threshold of removing employees from payrolls,experts epecting subprime type issues may occur soon in india too.... interestingly indian rupee is weaken much within short span of time....

By seeing/experiencing all these ill effects,even patriotic indians doubting about the situation of economy in the country.... few people asking questions like Is indian economy too collapsing?!

13 Oct 2008 15:19

The global markets are tepid. The Indian markets maybe volatile yet flat today. The weekend was quite with no major news and there may be a slight bounce in the market today. If there is no bounceback this week things will get worse going forward.
...

13 Oct 2008 15:14

In the whole of this year, we have closed below PE 15 for Nifty just once. And that was last friday. Already people are talking about bull runs :(

All that will happen is that it will allow FIIs to exit at a better price. Retail will be fooled once again....

In reply to:

WILL NIFTY HIT 3600 & SENSEX TOUCH 12000

Posted by : novice1000

dear BSR,

Quote:If Sensex goes below 8800 or Nifty goes below 2600, then ppl should forget about any recovery in Indian STOCK market for a few months until those BS Big PLAYers are over with their BUYing or over with their BS stories! :)

Unquote:believe it or not...except some small technical pull backs, dont expect any rally either in 2008 or 2009.

Sensex may go to levels of 8900 ( depending on the present quarterly numbers and earnings projections for the next 2 quaters).But when ever sensex reaches that level ( i mean what ever the lowest possible level in this bear market whether 8900 or even a lower level), with in 2 days sensex will gain atleast 1000 points.

Quote:That is why, I believe that within 3 months, many stocks should be available at very DIRT Cheap prices. Ppl should do their HOMEWORK before putting any FRESH investments into the market!

Unquote: Exactly... how ever it can happen anywhere in next 6 to 9 months( those dirt cheap levels).

And this is what i have been telling since July 2008 that investors should wait for a better opportunity in the next 12 months or so and i also told this is a trader`s market who can mint money.

Going forward, slowly the trading activity will also comedown.

Next 2 years, it will be bargain hunting for LT investors.

Post 2011, Indian stock markets will witness an explosive growth till 2016 with one major intermediate correction in between.

regards

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